Hello Iza and everyone else,

I had to create an account on Plusheal (been an active reader for months tho) just so I could show my gratitude for you creating this fantastic addon - I was told by a friend and the two of us have now lured the whole healing "department" in my guild into using VuhDo Some switched from Grid + Clique, some from Healbot, and everyone loves it!

I've a question too, it seems kinda noobish, but I've been browsing this loooong thread and did not find an answer. In your latest version you added HoT-timers, something that would be very useful for me as a resto druid throwing HoT's on all of the raid... The problem is I can't seem to enable them? I've ofc checked the "enable" option and chosen what I want the bars to look like, but they don't show up anywhere on my screen and since I don't know how they are supposed to look it's difficult to know what I'm doing wrong. Would be grateful for any advice

Hi Theronna,
thanks a lot! I haven't added HoT-timers in the last version - just some more option for them.
Never heard of this problem before. HoT timers just ought to show up by default...

Please check the following

1. Options=>Panels=HoT Icons
- Make sure "Show" is enabled
- Set size slider to a reasonable value
- Select the appropriate Slots for all your HoTs in "HoT order"
- Click "Apply to all" when you're done.

2. Options=>General=>Scanners
- Set HoT targeting to "Multi"
- Select a reasonable value for refresh rate.

3. Options=>Colors=>HoTs #1
- Select your favorite color for all of your HoTs, make sure opacity slider is at 100%
- Mark all the check buttons

- If that doesn't work for some reason try "Reset_Vuhdo.bat" in vuhdo addon folder (after leaving game).
- If that still doesn't work your client language must be korean, traditional or simplified chinese

Cheers
Iza

Hi Iza,

Did you implement this for FuBar specifically, or for LibDataBroker? I've tried almost every LDB display (except FuBar itself, which I stopped using a long time ago) with FuBar2Broker enabled, but can't seem to find a launcher for VuhDo.

I know you have an option to hide VuhDo's button from the minimap, but I really like the quick access it gives me to VuhDo's options, as well as the ability to broadcast MTs, change arrangements, etc.

hey Iza,

That mousewheel up/down - I love it! Finally able to get rid of Decursive (screenspace, memory, mouse moving). Until before mousewheel functioning, I had the following setup on clicks:

CLICK - Flash Heal
SH+CLICK - Greater Heal
CTRL+CLICK - Target
R.CLICK - Penance
SH+R.CLICK - Power Word: Shield
CTRL+R.CLICK - Renew

I used Prayer of Mending, Binding Heal, Prayer of Healing via Target and a number assigned to that spell. Dispelling via Decursive. Thanks to the mousewheel function and me being able to accurately use that while healing, I was able to add:

WHEELUP - Dispel Magic
SH+WHEELUP - Prayer of Healing
WHEELDOWN - Abolish Disease
SH+WHEELDOWN - Prayer of Mending
CTRL+WHEELDOWN - Binding Heal

and still have CTRL+WHEELUP to setup for something.

This is really a major improvement for me, as it really improves my speed, so thanks again a lot!!

*

One question: other players hots are now visible through a thumb-up-icon, and if more are active, a number indicating how many in the icon. To me, it would be really helpful info to know if it's a Regrowth or Beacon or Renew for example. Is it technically and performance-wise possible to have the other healers icons shown instead of a thumb? I don't know how it works exactly. My own heals are shown with an icon, and I guess those icons are taken from my spellbook then, and not delivered with the addon.

Hi Samcen,
I've done this specifically for FuBar. If haven't used LDB or LDB-display yet. So I tried and installed Fubar-Dummy-Plug and FuBar2Broker. After I logged in I got a LUA error about moneyfu and basically nothing changed (except of course the is no FuBar). Do I need another LDB-Display addon or something? The LDB project seems to be very sophisticated but also not very convenient...

Hi Luxaflex,
glad you can make use of wheel click. About the HoT thing: No, that's something I can't do. There can be a dozen of DoTs on a player at a time. Imagine what it'd look like if I'd show an icon for all of them. The icons are taken from the wow client indeed and there are two changes I'm working on that might be helpful to you.

1. Other players' hots will only show hots that will in fact heal a player (e.g. not: Abolish Disease)
2. The icon to display other players' hots will change to the "youngest" HoT that's ticking.

Ah ok Iza, I suspected as much

The thing I do always wanna see is Beacon of Light - and so I have that in the (de)buff list. That works too ofc.

How will Vuhdo behave if I added some more "other players hots" to the list of custom (de)buffs, and the total number goes up to 6 for example:

Weakened Soul
Grace
Beacon of Light
Regrowth
Divine Aegis
another priest's Renew

That would mean six (de)buffs to show up on the right side. I'm a bit reluctant to go and try this in raid tonight, cause I don't know what to expect. Will it seriously impact performance you think? How many icons will show? 3 max, or all 6?

At the moment I have 'Scan for all debuffs' enabled, and that doesnt impact performance at all. Just very curious if this setup would work. I'm a sort of control freak when healing in raids and do want to have any usefull information displayed. It would also allow me to see if I tell a druid to keep hots rolling on MT, if he is actually doing so.

Iza wrote:
2. The icon to display other players' hots will change to the "youngest" HoT that's ticking.

Do you mean the icon will show the actual spell icon when you implement that, and that it will show the most recent applied hot?

Hi Luxaflex,
increasing the total number of custom (de)buffs will not slow down your system. E.g. on a clean install there are all ulduar debuffs of interest predefined. It will show a max. of 3 icons at the same time though (the 3 most recent). I do not recommend using VuhDo for monitoring the behaviour of single raid members. There are other addons specialized to this.

2. Yes.

Hi Iza

I'm currently trying out some new configurations, and i'm running into some slight unpleasent things.

1. I have a really hard time selecting another panel to configure when i'm in the options menu and want to configure my panels. It's not clear how to select another panel box, i can spend 1-2 minutes finding that elusive place i need to click
Would it be possible to add a drop down menu at the top where you see what panel you're configuring to select the panel?
Or just make it a lot easier to select the frame. (I realise it could be the panel border, but i don't like having a large panel border - and.. thats not helpful if you can't select it properly in the first place )

2. I can't get VuhDo to save healthbar color. When i'm dps, i like having the 'float' colors, but when i'm healing, i prefer a solid color, i'm using both a dps color skin and a dps arrangement, but neither seems to recognize to save healthbar coloring option.

3. It would be really nice if VuhDo could load an arrangement and color skin based on spec AND group/raiding environment

Yeah ok Iza, I know the total number of debuff doesn't impact system performance. I wasn't sure if I would add customed (de)buffs, and for example 6 were up at the same time, if thàt would influence system performance. But you answered that by telling me a max of 3 debuffs is shown at a given time. Is there any chance that number can or will be increased? Either optional expanded to 4 or 5. Can't speak for other healers, but for me as a disc priest, it's very important to see my targets have:

Weakened Soul (that's 1 slot taken)
Grace (that's 2 slots taken)
Other Player's Hots (the thumb, that's 3 slots taken)

That leaves no room for *any* other customized info.

A fourth and preferably fifth icon slot, showing user-defined (de)buffs would so much improve the amount of displayed information. It would make much more sense to other priests if it was possible for example to show another player's Prayer of Mending in that 4th or 5th slot (on the right side), and your own on the left side.

Imagine me healing Tank A. All I see atm is a thumb with a little 2 in it. One of those charges could be a PoM. Since it is now possible to overwrite another priests' PoM, it is very valuable to see whether there is already a PoM waiting on my target to go off or not. It would save me mana, and it would prevent wasting an active PoM in the raid. It's a very situational example, but I think there are more examples to come up with.

PS: I'm not trying to deliver you extra work, I'm just spamming you my ideas on what would really improve Vuhdo for me - ultimately, it's all up to you if you decide it worth the work, and if it makes sense. I'm happy anyways with Vuhdo and don't see myself switching anytime soon. If there's anyway I can help, I would do so immediately. At the moment all I do is praise Vuhdo to the healers I'm in contact with

If you are a priest I also recommend adding Abolish Disease, Prayer of Mending and Guardian Spirit to that list. It can be good to know if another priest has any of those on the player as well. At least that is what I've done. And I've never really had a problem with the 3 icon limit being an issue.

Hi Darkwolfie,
1. when configuring panels there'll be a label on top of each panel. I'll enable this for selecting/moving panels (next update)
2. That's a bug. Fix => Next update (You'll have to overwrite existing Skins once)
3. I'm sorry, but: no can do. Too much work for too little effort imo.

Hi Luxaflex,
showing other players' hots doesn't take up a custom debuff slot. It uses a hot icon and so takes one of the five hot icon slots. So you'll still be able to show another 3 custom debuffs.
I think I'll add a slider (1-6, defaults to 3) then to determine the max. number of custom debuffs showing at a time.

You are holy 'We' disc priests rely on some things to proc on targets a bit more. Like Grace to have our healing up by up to 9% on that target. Or the small shield from crits, Divine Aegis. As for CD's like Guardian Spirit etc, I've had healers bind that to a raid warning, so all healers in raid know what's happening. If you can afford to spare 1 icon spot, it's best to have it visible for yourself yes, and other Vuhdo users. That is, btw one of the reasons why I asked for an expansion of debuff icons visible, to see more detail in what other healers are doing/have done. It might prevent an unneeded cooldown blown i.e.

Update 1.146 (beta)
===============

since Version 1.145 (to 1.146):

Bugfixes:
-- Fixed a bug with "assist" key assignment not working properly
-- Fixed a bug where panel number wasn't shown in options screens
-- Fixed a bug where bar colors weren't stored in skins

Improvements:
-- "Other players' hots" will only show HoTs which have a healing effect
-- "Other players' hots" will be displayed using the icon of the latest HoT cast on the unit
-- Added auto-workaround for wow client bug with "Wild Growth"
-- Enabled enabling/dragging panels by panel num label in options screens


Changes:

Features:
-- Added feature so that you can Drag&Drop any spell, item or macro into any
edit box in options
-- Added feature to show a max. of 5 custom (de)buffs at a time (before: 3)
-- Added slider to select max. number of custom (de)buffs at a time
(Options=>General=>Custom)

/salute Iza You, sir, are probably the most generous, community-friendly author I've ever encountered.

Hey Iza,


I love the new debuff slider idea. I can't wait to try it out tonight. You come out with updates so fast I haven't even added a spell to the mousewheel up/down. Thanks for all your hard work. I have all my guild healers using this now. And to my question..


So I was helping my roommate setup his Vuhdo and we ran into an issue, I am actually not sure if it has been posted yet or if we were doing it wrong but here it goes.




When setting up a new panel by grouping, for 8 groups, by raid id, panel anchored the bottom left corner we were trying to do the following.

Group 6 l Group 7 l Group 8 l
Group 1 l Group 2 l Group 3 l Group 4 l Group 5


Anytime we tried this we would always end up with an empty space on the bottom rows instead of the top.


Group 6 l Group 7 l Group 8 l Group 1 l Group 2 l
Group 3 l Group 4 l Group 5 l

Anyway I hope you understand what I am getting at, we ended up creating two seperate panels in order to have 1-5 on the bottom. I was just wondering if it was possible to do it with one panel. Also how do you lock the panels?


Thank you,

Rainx.

If memory serves, there's the slash command , and I know for certain it's an option on the minimap icon menu.

Yeah I have a similar, not really big deal issue with the pannel I keep the pets in. I have it anchored at the top right, so it will expand to the left... but it does kind of a funny thing (imo) when expanding... I have the limit to 5 in a column so when there are 6 pets in raid, it goes from



X is the anchor point for both panels... the pet one being upper right and the player one being upper left. The player one is just fine, but it does feel a little goofy to have the big gap between pannels that should be next to each other just because I have one extra pet.

I mostly only look at the pets if the players are all doing fine so this isn't really a big issue, just something that feels funny. But the issues might be related.

I'm amazed again by the speed and devotion you put into this Iza - thank you so much!