Hi,
This is my first post and I would just like to say thank you for all the great information provided!

Here are a few questions I would like to challenge the community to answer.

1. If I proc Divine Aegis ( for 12 sec) and then apply PW:S (15 sec after absorbed), which shield is absorbing damage first?

2. Same thing different scenario - If i apply PW:S (it gets eaten) then I proc Divine Aegis does the PW:S once absorbed stop my Divine Aegis from absorbing?

The reason I ask these questions is because I got this new add-on found linked in this forums - http://ehfs.event-horizon-gilde.de/ - (If you know a better or new add-on that calculates damage absorption for Disc priest plz post it. I would love to try it out and show my raid leader true healing meters.) In the add-on my Divine Aegis for healing, did not live up to what I was expecting and was wondering why it was not absorbing its full amounts. My heal critical hits were around 30%. Maybe i am not doing something right - possibly right combination or spell rotation. I am unsure and would love some help.

Sundotz

I actually have the same question. Sometimes when the tank is about to eat a hateful strike or a Plasma Blast from Mimiron I'll proc. a shield on him and out of habit a PW:S followed by PoM and Penance. I always wonder which takes the dmg. absorption first. I always assumed it was PW:S thus negating (for a short period at least) my shield proc but.. I am not for certain though.

I am not sure which gets absorbed first either. It surprises me that blizzard hasn't come up with a better, cleaner way of reporting absorbs to the combat log. With the Druid's new feral shield, Disc priest's rise in popularity and obviously, the new legendary weapon, it would seem like a great time for them to make some improvements so we can see exactly what's going on with shields, shield procs and absorbs.

Bump!

Over 130 views and 2 comments wondering the exact same thing I am.
I know a lot of priest are wondering the same thing!
Have I stumped the healing community on this forum?

Sundotz

I think the question is something that all shielding classes are trying to figure it out. I would assume that the shields stack and it all comes in a single "Absorb" value that will get eaten up.

Is there a reliable monster out there where this can be tested on? I would assume you can use Dr Doom's robots since they give off a nice chuck of damage. You would need to DA and Shield yourself or a meat shield and send them in. Next step would be to watch the combat log.


I'll try the Dr. Doom method tonight and see what happens. I'm using Skada Damage Meters, so it should give a good idea of how much is getting absorbed.

I used Dr. Doom as a test with a single PW:S, Flash Heal DA, and both together. I absorbed Doom's damage until I took actually damage from him, then ran away to heal up. This was done to make each combination as clean as possible. The Combined had three runs.
The following numbers are the totals for the three combinations. I made sure that DA and PW:S where both up when damage started to take place.
Power Word: Shield Only = 4139 total Absorbs
Flash Healed Divine Aegis = 3601 total Absorbs
FH DA and PW:S Combined = 4276, 7173, and 3685 total Absorbs,

From what I can see. DA and PW:S do stack. The only problem is that DA is on a much shorter timer, so you may lose the full benefits of both when a tank is pre-shielded before a fight. In these fights, DA took off some damage before fading, then the rest was absorbed by PW:S.

DA will absorb first. Once DA is broken, PW:S will absorb.

Answerd: http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/05/ ... he-shield/

/grin!

Nice - A featured post!
Well done and well wrote, too! Thank you all!!
Damn I really thought I had you guys stumped...
I will be posting more challenges to Plus Heal later on...

Sundotz

Damn. I could have been lazy and let Matt do my experiment. :+)
Nice to know that I can throw PW:S and let that get eaten up first while I throw on the DA.

As one commenter on Matticus's post said, his results were affected by the fact that the mob hits so hard that they removed both in the same blow. So I went and did my own experiments with the hulking jormungar elites in northern dragonblight.
My results were this: divine aegis always gets eaten first regardless of order they are applied

I'm not going to post a bunch of combat logs cause I'm too lazy so you're going to have to take my word for it or do the experiment yourself.
It would be interesting to see how this works with other classes shields.

PS: My main conclusion from the experiment was I need more crit.

I can't find the damn thread now but I remeber reading on Elitist Jerks, all hail the masters of theorycrafting!, that DA is ALWAYS consumed before PW:S as the test Oktrag did shows.

Yup. This is true.

I understand that the question was answered, but I agree with this post 100%. I find it kind of funny they still haven't done anything about absorbs since the beginning of the game, PW:S has always been around. We always had to rely on addons to calculate how much absorb it had left/how much absorb is helping if at all. Hopefully there will be some combatlog improvements soon though. =)

After thinking about it some, I have a related question. If a Feral tank has his personal shield up, is this absorbed before DA and PW:S? Since the duration is shorter it would make sense, kind of like DA being absorbed before PW:S. I play both a feral druid tank/feral dps and a Disc priest, so I'd definitely be interested in knowing. I'll look at logs from my naxx run tonight and see if I can figure it out, if so I'll post results.

Lol, I laughed. This was kinda funny. Both shields break at the same time, so to really test it, you'll need steady damage. Something like the lava @ Sartharion or the big elites that are shooting bolts just north outside Flamerest.

Will test this when I get home with a warlock's VW bubble, DA, shield and a resistance potion.

I have been unable to get help from a mage or a warlock, so I've tried it with a potion, DA and PW:S. And it's in that order that the absorbtion breaks. First the potion, then Divine Aegis, then PW:Shield.