@Joe Ego: Yeah, I'm not looking to inflate meters, and my aim is better performance in regular DS - LFR is just for fun, valor and 384 gear while I still have 378's left (and even a 359 trinket).
Here are a couple things I'm seeing in comparing the two of you during the Madness kill:
Before 20:14 everyone's output spikes heavily and your increase lags behind. Babyoh uses Avenging Wrath earlier and seems to get better use out of it. You use Avenging Wrath and Divine Favor together, but later and your burst has time is significantly less. Aside from unnecessarily stacking cooldowns (usually a healer will want to space/rotate them or at least chain them) you burst later when there was less healing to do.
Babyoh Pleas 5 times to your 3. Tier 13 offers plenty of opportunities to Plea and you need to be aggressive about taking them.
Babyoh is basically raid healing. Mostly Radiance and LoD, keeping Shock on cooldown, and occasionally casting Holy Light. You cast 32 Divine Lights to his 0 and 44 WoG to his 17. His mix is just plain higher HPS. On the one hand, somebody has to heal the tanks. On the other hand, tanks don't need a lot of healing in LFR. I'd suggest paying them less attention but don't develop any bad habits.
True, paladin push out most hps when allowed to raid heal.
Exactly the reason why I don't give them main focus tanks anymore. That's now for disc priests and druids.
When you are assigned to tank healing, you better keep focus though. I've seen too many paladins slack on tank healing, because they tend to get so caught up in HRad spamming.
@Joe: Thinking about it I'm sure use of CD's are a major weak point of mine - guess I'll have to think of a way to use them more/better. Proper Power Aura configuration might be it.
@Eplixx: Could be an idea to try and let our disc priest take care of tank healing, and put me on raid healing instead. And I think you're right. Even when tank healing, I sometimes get caught up in helping out with raid healing.
Here are a couple things I'm seeing in comparing the two of you during the Madness kill:
Before 20:14 everyone's output spikes heavily and your increase lags behind. Babyoh uses Avenging Wrath earlier and seems to get better use out of it. You use Avenging Wrath and Divine Favor together, but later and your burst has time is significantly less. Aside from unnecessarily stacking cooldowns (usually a healer will want to space/rotate them or at least chain them) you burst later when there was less healing to do.
Babyoh Pleas 5 times to your 3. Tier 13 offers plenty of opportunities to Plea and you need to be aggressive about taking them.
Babyoh is basically raid healing. Mostly Radiance and LoD, keeping Shock on cooldown, and occasionally casting Holy Light. You cast 32 Divine Lights to his 0 and 44 WoG to his 17. His mix is just plain higher HPS. On the one hand, somebody has to heal the tanks. On the other hand, tanks don't need a lot of healing in LFR. I'd suggest paying them less attention but don't develop any bad habits.
Just to emphasize what Joe said, please, please don't develop bad habits. Zonozz hits the tank quite hard in heroic, and our paladin's #1 spell was holy radiance on wipe attempts (he was assigned to tank heal). I was switching from raid healing to tank healing as a holy spec priest because our tank kept dying. Our heal lead at the time was not in the raid, and I finally said something to the effect of I'm starting to twitch every time I see holy radiance being casted and he got the hint =P Predictably enough, we killed the boss in heroic when he wasn't in the raid, and our other paladin was there, properly tank healing.
In general, you are better off assigning paladins to raid heal and someone else (probably a Disc priest) to tank heal on Heroic Zon'ozz. The fight is extremely raid healing intensive, and the need to prevent the raid from bleeding out with the debuff and get them relatively topped off prior to the start of each dark phase is extremely high. Holy Radiance just flat out beats any other AoE heal in a stacked situation like that, so it is best to take full advantage of it, and use a class with weaker AoE healing on a tank (with a proper tank CD rotation). I know that I quickly learned that trying to single target heal debuff targets or putting GCDs on to the tank (aside from using WoG instead of LoD at 3 HP if the tank was <70%) resulted in the raid (especially debuff targets) dropping too low and deaths on ball hits. Straight out HR spam from both holy pallies whenever debuffs were active fixed that.
One of the things that you need to get out of the mindset (and that raid leaders and other healing classes) of in 4.3 is that paladins are tank healers and only tank healers. We now have the strongest AoE healing capability of any class in any situation where the raid is stacked (the majority of DS). Also, we only really were exceptional tank healers (since 4.0) in situations where beacon can be used to full effectiveness. In single tank fights or tank swap fights where only one tank needs real healing at a time, paladins are only average at tank healing - disc priests are definitely better, shaman are probably better and druids are not significantly weaker. DS is filled with tank swap fights and single tank fights, so we really are not that great at tank healing in DS.
I appreciate the input. We are running with me, a priest and a shaman for our healing team, so I'll definitely bring this up and try to let the priest focus on tank healing and assign myself to raid healing. I've tried it out on a couple of LFR and BH's, and I really do put out significantly more HPS when raid healing than when tank healing.
Even if I stay on tank healing I'll be more comfortable with the numbers, knowing that I do not trail behind because I'm slacking, but simply because of my assignment. And if we struggle with the fights, I'll have some constructive input for trying out other assignments
For some of the fights, using a lot of HR is most efficient, but there's times when it isn't as well. Personally, with our raid make-up, I use a lot of HR on uh (names of things are not my forte - my guild claims it's because I'm female, but they only say this since none of the rest of them are), the AOE phases for the guy with the blobs (looked it up - Yor'sahj - no wonder I can't remember these damn names) and the guy on the AOE phase for the guy with the ball thing (Zon'ozz) and the AOE phase for Ultraxion. Otherwise, I use a lot of Div Light, Holy Shock and Holy Light and hit Div Plea/Arcane Torrent whenever it's reasonable to do so. And on all AOE I use Light of Dawn rather than Word of Glory. I get the green crystal on Ultraxion and concentrate on tank healing. Or sometimes, I forget to focus the boss and miss the first Hour of Twilight and die to a 300k blast of stupid.
I had to change my healing style significantly from FL to DS. I was not previously a big user of HR. In DS, you get sort of forced into it. I am never at the top of the meter on Morchock, but I have a good chance of being there on most of the other fights other than maybe Ultraxion (we are a 10-man guild, so about half the time there's only one other person healing - who's been healing since pretty much forever).
Last week, on Yor'sahj, HR was >35% of my healing done and on Zon'ozz HR was around 40% of my healing. Divine Light is usually my second, followed by Beacon, World of Glory, Holy Shock and Light of Dawn. We had 3 healers for both of these fights, a shaman, a druid, and me. We're usually clustered very closely on healing done.
Then on something like Warmaster Blackhorn, I clearly had an edge over our druid (for some reason, I thought we killed him with 3 healers...but apparently not - it was our first kill - we're a pretty casual guild). Anyway, my primary healing spell on that was definitely Div Light and I spent most of my time running around to stand in swirly things.
Hagara I pretty much consider anti-paladin and a mess. I try to pre-cast some HR before phases where you run around like a moron, but otherwise it's just some HS and hope nobody is dumb enough to try to heroic leap over an ice wall (which our tank has done more than once). Mostly, I'm Div Light and HS on that fight too.
Just thought I'd give an update. Unfortunately I forgot ( ) to turn on logging, so there's no WOL for documentation.
However, last nights raid was a lot different for me than the previous ones. I'm definitely using HR and LoD a lot more than before, my HPS is much better, and the overall feel was that of more control. When we wiped, it was mostly to mechanisms, that you cannot heal through anyway (like surfing the icewall on Hagara).
So in summary I just want to thank you all for your input and help: I really feel you have helped me improve - Thanks
) to turn on logging, so there's no WOL for documentation.
